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Post by Azure Princess on Feb 21, 2007 23:03:02 GMT -5
She did? O o O I can understand the whole frustration thing though. But it doesn't seem like she has an obviously violent personality - maybe she's just frustrated as she hasn't shown any violent tendencies - asides from the one you mentioned.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Feb 21, 2007 23:07:06 GMT -5
She did? O o O I can understand the whole frustration thing though. But it doesn't seem like she has an obviously violent personality - maybe she's just frustrated as she hasn't shown any violent tendencies - asides from the one you mentioned. Again, you gotta play the game.XD
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Post by Azure Princess on Feb 22, 2007 20:35:04 GMT -5
LOL XD *gets hit on the head by Princess Jennifer* Hai hai! I'm almost through, I swear!
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Post by battleblaze on Apr 10, 2007 14:32:49 GMT -5
eh, I know this an old thread. But I was trying to find stuff on Diana, and what her deal...Yeaz she does do do some pretty wacked out stuff. But on the other hand look at their enviroment. I find Dianas story a pretty sad one... Hoffman I'm pretty sure was being sexual with the girls. I take Diana's behavior as proof of that...While the other kids just use direct pain, the only thing an innocent mind could come up with. Diana can use psycological warefare. In my life, very wtf childhood, and I take psycology...Kids who go through sexual stuff tend to to mature more. So while Jen&Wen are in their little pretend world, Diana knows what this "love" really is (at least from what she's seen) and it sucks. Moreover Diana is smart. While the first times Hoffman was abusing her I'm sure she was scared. But after awhile she could see Hoffman was just an old man with a weak mind, a mind that she could control with her body. Showing how she could control Meg. Saddist, yes...she is. But I just see her making Meg bleed before sucking her finger could (this is kinda gross but its prolly the truth) reflect her views on love (the bandage, her age, her virginity, all that was related to it was pain & blood ...) Its not really her fault the way she is. Just a series of sad incidents that warped her view of people, the world, and love... That's more or less the story of all the girls if you really want to force association.
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Post by goxdroo on Nov 17, 2007 20:44:25 GMT -5
i believe diana had a history of being raped before she came to the orphanage. she exudes all the characteristics of being a victim of rape: to being dirty all the time not ever wanting to be touched wanting to be a pure mermaid..etc...
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Nov 17, 2007 21:40:31 GMT -5
We are never shown that Diana is dirty or does not want to be touched.
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Post by goxdroo on Nov 18, 2007 18:09:29 GMT -5
well she is always calling diana dirty right? and when Mr. Hoffman is touching her and she is crying. Mr. Hoffman leaves and she starts brushing herself off like she is just really filthy. I dunno maybe im just delusional. :[[
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Nov 19, 2007 23:28:01 GMT -5
Who calls Diana dirty? And of course she would brush herself off, considering HOW she was being touched. No one wants to be touched like that by such a person.
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Post by aaronm on Feb 10, 2008 17:47:03 GMT -5
I love Diana....
That being said I really don't think the headmaster is a perv. A strange chap none the less, I gotta feeling he would have had an "unfortunate" fall down the stairs if he was trying that kind of thing with her. really not the kind of orphans you want to catch on a bad day. little sadists.
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Post by kommando1986 on Mar 8, 2008 11:31:21 GMT -5
Actually, about Diana, I believe this quote I found on the Rule of Mysteries Blog, from Aya Valentine, is the one version I most believe. Mainly because it's not linked if she was abused or not (and I think she was NOT, because, not like Clara, she was the strong-willed and would definately not let Hoffman abuse her - maybe touch and maybe she wounded her leg trying to not me molested-), but mainly in a "inside the -complex- mind of a children" line of thought.
~Diana~… Ahh, here we are. Cruel, demanding, manipulative… but really, was she any of these things?; Diana was orphaned just like the rest of them, and probably was older than most when she got there. It turned her life upside down, so she went about creating a new structure for her life, and for everyone else’s, so that nothing else would go wrong- she set up a moral system based on the sense of justice someone her age would have. Right and wrong were based on rewards and punishments. A rudimentary moral stage everyone goes through. But because of the unique situation, she based her system on faulty data. Molestation was a punishment, and so she adopted it as an acceptable punishment for her use as well, though it disgusted her. The bizarre childish games of the RCA became part of the justice structure as well, until it defined the group as a whole. But all she really meant by all this was to have some control over her life, so she would never go through another utterly devastating loss like before. She wished to be a mermaid, a regal, untouchable creature, magical, who lived in a perfect world and never had to face the hardships of ‘reality’. She wanted, deep down, to be a good girl, but she also wanted to keep from being hurt. And the best way to keep others from hurting you is to hurt them first. She was truly trapped by her own ideals.
-KoMManDo
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Mar 9, 2008 18:28:49 GMT -5
I don't recall her ever saying that, and be warned, that site is full of lies.
As stated in the many threads where Hoffman and his relationship with Clara and Diana are discussed, I don't think he did those things to them. We are seeing things in Jennifer's mind, which are jumbled and twisted by the view of a child. If you see the scary teacher go in the room with the gentle girl and the gentle girl comes out looking scary and maybe hurt, you might jump to conclusions. And take the scene where we see Clara cleaning something for Hauffman. Innocent enough, but people constantly use that scene as a reason to jump to the conclusion he was touching her, though there's nothing in it to really suggest that. Possibly Jennifer saw him putting Clara to bed and misunderstood, then attached that same misunderstanding to a scene she saw with Hoffman scolding Diana.
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Post by kommando1986 on Mar 10, 2008 23:01:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, and Aya Valentine said it on a comment about the January chapter ^^
BTW, I do NOT believe also that there was sexual intercourse at all. At the maximum, Hoffmann MAY have touched Clara and touched (in the scolding way) Diana. I believe in the innocence and purity of the game ^^ I just said that because the majority's understanding is that there was an abuse, and even in that case, I think it's highly doubtful that Diana was a victim.
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Post by aaronm on Mar 12, 2008 3:41:27 GMT -5
Yeah I agree, I belive the game is way to classy to allude to something so....awful. And like I said before, Diana is no victim, Hoffman would have wound up "dissapearing" under different circumstances if he bothered her, imho.
People took the smallest, innocent things and twisted them into the most awful twisted things they could think of, which in the end where produced by they're own imaginations, not by anything that the game presented or imo alluded to to which one could draw such conclusions.
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Post by kommando1986 on Mar 12, 2008 15:08:06 GMT -5
Fully agree!!
Nice thought!! Probably Mr. Hoffman would disappear if he had done it. =p
Diana is just too smart and evil to be used like a toy!! lol
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Post by aaronm on Mar 14, 2008 4:59:21 GMT -5
lol yep, she's quite the aristocrat
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