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Post by PrincessJennifer on May 18, 2007 1:42:11 GMT -5
It is implied that Clara and Martha left at the same time.
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Post by hachi on May 18, 2007 5:55:34 GMT -5
Uhm, it's sure? Anyway, it's the same. How can they just leave?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on May 18, 2007 13:08:04 GMT -5
Not sure, but implied.
Some presume that something sinister happened to them, but I think the orphans either got too out of control or they just did not think it was worth it anymore.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 10, 2007 21:13:36 GMT -5
But why couldn't something sinister have happened to them? Honestly, if the rest of the game is tragic, why do Martha and Clara get to escape?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 11, 2007 3:00:30 GMT -5
Hoffman escapes. Jennifer escapes. It's not like they're the only ones who escape. And there's no solid evidence to suggest something bad happened to them.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 11, 2007 12:56:42 GMT -5
Why do you act like your theories are Gospel? Jennifer's memories could have been sanitized. I mean, it is a theory that the orphans killed Hoffman and Gregory buried him, Martha, and Clara in the garden. The idea that they just happened to leave doesn't fit with the ambiance of the game. It's a creepy game. Why would Jennifer have forgotten all this stuff if something horrible didn't happen?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 12, 2007 16:23:39 GMT -5
-.-; You need to watch your attitude. That theory is completely impossible for many reasons, as has already been stated in topics about this subject. They didn't "just happen to leave"-they abandoned the orphans. That's why Jennifer states about how the adults could have prevented the tragedy if they had only been more responsible.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 12, 2007 20:59:06 GMT -5
-.-; You need to watch your attitude. That theory is completely impossible for many reasons, as has already been stated in topics about this subject. They didn't "just happen to leave"-they abandoned the orphans. That's why Jennifer states about how the adults could have prevented the tragedy if they had only been more responsible. Regardless, why would Hoffman's diary entry stop so suddenly? And Martha's letter? And Clara had told Martha that after she turned 18 she wanted to stay on as an employee of the orphanage. Why would she leave if she had already decided this?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 12, 2007 22:38:36 GMT -5
Hoffman's diary entry didn't stop suddenly. He specifically states in it that he is leaving. As for Martha's, the theories for that are in another thread. And why do you think Clara would leave? Hoffman left. She clearly looked up to him and wanted to stay on. Also, one he left, the kids clearly got out of control. What reason was there for her to stay?
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 12, 2007 22:44:46 GMT -5
If Hoffman was molesting Clara, she would feel relieved that he was leaving and would not want to follow him. If she wasn't molested, where would she go? She had no job skills, no family, nothing with which to support herself. Her security was to stay at the orphanage and work there, not to leave.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 12, 2007 22:47:17 GMT -5
There was no security at the orphanage. If anything, the opposite was true. She was quite skilled in medicine, but the most likely answer is that she stayed with Martha.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 12, 2007 22:54:43 GMT -5
She would have had to earn an education in order to pursue medicine in any sense. A poor 16-year old orphan girl would have no way to support herself in the outside world. I don't think that she stayed with Martha because Martha didn't seem to like any of the children. Why would she take this orphan girl with her?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 12, 2007 22:58:21 GMT -5
Martha disliked the children for being bratty, messy, and so on. Clara was none of those things and was practically an adult already. She knew how to take care of herself and made her job easier. Clara generally seemed to have gotten along well with the adults as a result, so that's the most likely possibility.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 12, 2007 22:59:51 GMT -5
But regardless, when Martha left, Clara would have been a burden on her. Someone to take care of. If Martha were to leave the orphanage to get free, she wouldn't want that extra baggage reminding her that she abandoned the children.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 12, 2007 23:10:56 GMT -5
Clara wouldn't have been a burden. She was quite capable of taking care of herself.
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