Missing Kids*SPOILERS*

[PrincessJennifer]

If there is one thing we have all been wondering, it is the significance of the article found in Gregory's house about the missing kids. Did he take them? Is that article just to explain the inspiration for his story? It's been argued back and forth, and I have come up with a theory now.


As many of you know, recently FMVs not in the game surfaced, one of which showed Gregory in his garden, burying something that looked like a bloody article of clothing. I asked Atlus and learned that this scene was scrapped, but never removed from the original Japanese version of the game-in other words, it got left on the disk data, but was not actually in the game if you played it.

Maybe the original idea when the game was being created, was Gregory kidnapping children and Jennifer being one of the kids he took, saved from death by Wendy's rescue. The whole idea could have been scrapped, but the article about the missing children might have accidentally got left in the game.

[PrinceJoshua]

Ugh! They always take things out!

But it might as well be taken out, I liked the story as is. Thanks for the theory PrincessJennifer!

[jackdyce]

I personally think that was thrown in there to explain Martha's "disappearance." The game makes it clear that she cared for the kids, and would not have pulled a Hoffman and left. It's far more likely that the person going around kidnapping (presumably Gregory) kidnapped Martha as well.

[PrincessJennifer]

It is stated in the game that both Martha and Clara left willingly after Hoffman. After the Aristocracy started to take over, who in their right mind would want to stick around?

[jackdyce]

It never states that Martha left willingly. Just that she left sometime after Hoffman did.

[PrincessJennifer]

Yes, it does in fact state that both Martha and Clara left willingly. If something bad had happened to them, we would have been told.

[avidgamer77]

If the cut scene is to be incorporated, the whole Gingerbread House chapter would be quite different. It shows Greg's obvious violent acts to avoid suspicion, so he's most probably guilty of kidnapping, killing and burying the 3 children. I think all the other evidences will be left intact.

[PrincessJennifer]

The one point people seem to miss however, is that the cutscene was removed from the project itself and not canon. It does somewhat support my theory that the makers oringally intended for Gregory to be a much more villianous character, but dropped that idea and never fully removed all the evidence.

[ThePrincessWendy]

Some once theorized that it was I who ordered Gregory to kidnap and kill those kids after I made him intro Stray Dog. It was pretty widely believed, but eventually they realized that it was highly unlikely, given the dates of the kidnappings.

[PrincessJennifer]

I'm putting a copy of my post in another thread here, because it goes along with this subject:


An interesting piece of evidence that support my theory, is in a few snippets of audio that-like the cutscene of Gregory outside of the Gingerbread House-were cut from the final project but left on the disk. This dialogue is between Gregory and Joshua, and unlike the cutscene and a lot of the other audio, it has Gregory very in-character and seems likely that it was just removed because the matching scene just did not fit in(why would Jennifer see the two of them together if she had never met Joshua?).

In the dialogue, Joshua is asking his father what will happen next in the story he's being read. Gregory replies he will have to wait until tomorrow, because even he does not know yet. Joshua states that he loves his daddy's stories, and Gregory ask why he loves them so much. Joshua replies that it's because they are "scary and full of surprises". Gregory laughs and says that makes him happy. Joshua asks his father to sing to him, and that's where it ends. Though it being canon is questionable, it does have Joshua stated what I theoried about him loving scary stories with surprises, which fits the pea story Gregory recites. Interesting, huh?^^

[Azure Princess]

Well, if you take it from that point of view - the article was mainly just inspiration for the pea rhyme that he wrote.

However, looking at the bloody article of clothing, we can assume that it was the original idea to have Gregory guilty of all those things - but some kind of last minute decision changed this and hence, Gregory became the character we know now.

[PrincessJennifer]

>_>And love.

Still, they should not have made so many changes that they never cleaned up, if that is indeed the case.

[ThePrincessWendy]

Again, an interesting thing you point out about the audio~

Those missing kids were how the Stray Dog rumors got started, which is why most people automatically link them to Gregory. And most of the evidence pointing to him is clearly circumstancial.

[PrincessJennifer]

Indeed.

[PreciousLittleGirl]

Is there any chance Wendy was involved with the kidnappings? I saw a thread mentioning this on gamefaqs recently and recall reading something about it on your site, PrincessJennifer.