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Post by alwaysandforever on Jul 24, 2007 15:58:29 GMT -5
maybe martha getting 'swept up' by the imps symbolizes the children killing her?
like, maybe when you fight the bosses, like hoffman and mermaidclara they're jennifer remembering the kids killin people?
i mean, even if they were adults they're no real match for the 12+ children.
also, if you look at the the mermaid chapter it makes sense. the guy behind the door asks for an unmarried mermaid and susan (i think) says they dont exist and runs away crying. if unmarried=chlid
i think the red crayon aristocrats were like a adult-hating cult who were scared of and hated adults and killed them.
and susan runs away crying because she knows it means they're gonna kill clara just like they killed martha and hoffman
or hoffman left them in martha and clara's care and then they died when stray dog massacred everyone?
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 24, 2007 20:27:09 GMT -5
Olivia. And it seems more she was crying because she thought no such thing existed and did not know how she was going to find one to present.
The door is alive on the airship-it's not someone behind it speaking.
I do not believe the orphans killed the adults. Jennifer would have known about such a thing, so she most likely would have mentioned it in the final chapter. Instead, she states that they left. And we even see an entry in Hoffman's diary that supports that. Martha and Clara were definately gone before the massacre, regardless.
I believe that we see Martha getting swept away because she disappeared. The orphans believed people really got swept away by the imps, so when someone suddenly disappeared, they assumed the imps were responsible. Perhaps because Clara was not an adult and seemed obsessed with cleanliness, they made up a different fate for her-becoming a mermaid and swimming away or something.
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Post by alwaysandforever on Jul 24, 2007 21:14:47 GMT -5
the door is alive? jeez i didn't know that
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 24, 2007 22:40:13 GMT -5
The scissors, Bucket Knight, and Rubbish Bin are all alive as well.
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Post by alwaysandforever on Jul 25, 2007 16:41:26 GMT -5
well i knew THEY were, they're talking on their own. but i always thought it was someone behind the door.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 25, 2007 17:10:29 GMT -5
In real life, that was quite possibly the case, but on the airship, that was how it was.
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Post by MaRayearth on Jul 25, 2007 18:51:37 GMT -5
the Bucket Knight's comments when you ask for clues are pretty interesting ^^
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 25, 2007 21:15:37 GMT -5
But sometimes confusing.@_@
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Post by headlesswaltz on Jul 25, 2007 21:54:41 GMT -5
Bucket Knight's clues were kind of maddening. He never really gave you too much help, IMO.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 25, 2007 21:55:48 GMT -5
Anyway, back on-topic!^^
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Post by Lala-chan on Jul 30, 2007 18:16:03 GMT -5
Hoffman just didn't seem to me like he cared all that much.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Jul 30, 2007 18:47:31 GMT -5
I think he tried to, but he just wasn't cut out to be a wonderful, caring teacher.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 10, 2007 20:26:32 GMT -5
Maybe they were afraid of Gregory frequently stalking them at the gate and behaving irrationally (so they wanna flee for safety?), and the orphans going out of control, they might even be afraid of confronting the kids or hate them for what they are doing. It's like an anarchy (opposite of democracy), with everything falling apart like a domino effect, look at the untidy classroom for instance. Nobody teaches/disciplines the kids anymore, so disorder is the norm. It's all Hoffman's fault, he's very selfish for leaving the orphanage (just because he couldn't stand Jennifer's filthiness and incorrigibleness) and thinking that the responsibility should go to Clara and Martha. The opposite of democracy is actually a dictatorship (which is hinted at on the lesson board in the classroom where the lesson is on Naziism). The orphans seem to have this type of social government among themselves by appointing the Rose Princess. She is the one who tells them what to do and when to do it. So if the adults left the situation, the children may have been okay for a while. The problem probably came when Wendy was overthrown as the Rose Princess. Even though Jennifer was made into the new Princess, there is nothing about her reign in the game. The whole system could have fallen into disarray because of the coup.
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Post by PrincessJennifer on Oct 11, 2007 3:02:14 GMT -5
This topic is not about that though.
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Post by cmwilso3 on Oct 11, 2007 12:58:22 GMT -5
No, the topic is about the orphans being abandoned. I personally don't think that they were abandoned, but they created that abandonment by killing the adults.
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